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Snohomish Radio Aero Club AMA
#650
Bellow is some info on the "Spec - Brushless" pylon racing class we plan to fly this year. Note - these models will be roughly comparable to last years S-400 powered models in overall flight speed, but will be easier to launch and land. Also, electric models will not fly against gas models this year.
How we got "electrics" where they are today... a history of SRAC / Electric Pylon evolution:
At the end of the 04/05 season it was made clear to electric pilots that racing electrics vs. gas in the same class wasn't going to work for the long run. The best case solution was to get more electric flyers to show up, and run electrics in their own class. We've done that. in fact we have WAY more interested then initially thought. One of the other options was to allow brushless systems, but force electric flyers to use converted ½ glow (423 legal) airframes. We knew this would be possible, so with the help of others the GLH-E (Dave Beardsley's) came to life. He stuck a brushless power system in it, Long time 1/2A GLH Pilot Roy Stubbs flew it, and was confident it would be competitive with the glow models. However, the power system required to haul the GLH's draggy airframe around the race course at competitive speeds, is NOT what we are using in the commercially available "speed-400" models. If we did, they'd be going well over 110 MPH - not what we want.
Shortly after Roy and Dave proved the GLH-E would work, it became clear that almost few would take time to build one. Mostly because converting a 1/2A glow design requires some "scratch building skills " and shop time that few of us have. Especially when you can buy a molded electric "speed-400" model for about $130.00, and there are over 20 to choices from. Bottom line, very few had time / or skills to build up a converted 1/2A model, they'd all rather blow ~$130.00 and sit in the TV room with wife and kids, then build in the shop.
Once this was realized this (and reviewed with our event CD) the idea of "spec-brushless" came along. As it has in other clubs across the country - the spec brushless class has taken hold like wild fire, now we've got 15 new pilots ready to race. We're not sure that they will all show, but to grow from 2 electrics last year, to potentially 17 this year is pretty cool. It makes sense - when you consider the price, availability, and design verity of the planes, combined with the explosion of small brushless / Li-poly systems (from the park flyers) - its very easy to get involved in racing for not much money.
Rules and Info:
Click here for Electric Class racing rules (MS Word .doc file)
Click here for 1/2A Class racing rules (MS Word .doc file)
Click here for Doubler Class racing rules (MS Word .doc file)
Click here for pylon racing frequency list (MS Word .doc file)
Where we fly:
http://www.sracinc.com/ What we fly:
The models we fly can be scratch built or purchased as ARF / RTF / Kits. There are NO restrictions on the airframe design. The only restriction in this class is the power system. The models are original designed to compete in the provisional FAI Class “Speed-400 F5D”. These models are commonly referred to as “Speed-400 Pylon Racers”. As you surf the net be careful not to confuse F5D (the big planes flown at the Worlds – over 200 MPH) and the ones we fly – smaller, s-400 sized. Note that some of the models in the list below are from the “F5D Class”, but they are the smaller of the group, and thus will work in our class due to the power system we’ve selected. They won’t be the fastest on the course, but easy to handle because of their comparatively large wing area and low RTF weight. Spec class power system – we will ALL be using this system.
http://www.nesail.com/detail.php?productID=3796 PLEASE NOTE: As you read info on these models via the web, remember the vendors are interested in selling the fastest, most bad ass version of these planes possible. Consequently, you’ll read things like “capable of speeds above 160 MPH”. You might even see a video or two of the models in flight, tearing up the sky at blistering speeds, sounding like a missile as it passes by the camera. While it’s true these models will go that fast, the spec class power system WILL NOT fly the model at those speeds. The power system we’ve selected is well suited to CLUB LEVEL racing and the AVERAGE sport pilot. You’ll need intermediate piloting skills, and should comfortable flying aileron controlled models to safely pilot these planes. PLEASE REMEMBER – using the power system we’ve selected, these models are light weight, easy to launch, and easy to land. The Pitch speed of the prop is ~70 MPH, estimated top speed of the plane in straight flight is about 85 MPH. Below I have broken down the models into 3 categories based on pilot skill required to fly safely. As a reference, Brendon flew a Sprint last year, and I flew a Stinger. The Stinger required a lot of attention and I would NOT recommend it as a “first” model. Later in the year I switched to the Voodoo. The Voodoo is significantly larger then the Stinger, and thus easier to fly and land. I had more fun flying the Voodoo because I wasn’t as drained at the end of the races. Models well suited to this class are: Beginner / easy to handle: Mid level Skills required to fly: Must be fighter pilot to fly these: Radio Gear: Any RX that will fit. Popular choices include the Hi-Tech Electron Six, Berg 5, FMA M5, Sombra Labs Shadow, JR770, JR700, etc….. Servos:
Micro size is preferred. The HS 55 is the benchmark for this class, but is sometimes to large depending on the model. If you are going to spend extra $$ on one of the servos – spend it on the elevator servo. That servo is the most important of the group. I’ve used this servo with good luck: http://www.nesail.com/detail.php?productID=2826
http://www.nesail.com/detail.php?productID=3776 Ailerons – any servo with 10oz in torque or more. Good site – for reference:
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=9
Building Notes:
SRAC safety is our top priority. Take your time when building your electric racer. These models are fast, and need to have accurate, stiff, slop free control surfaces. In many of these models, you must GLUE your servos in with STRONG epoxy. Rough up the matting surfaces before you glue in the servo and clean the area with alcohol.
Before the next race at SRAC all the models will go through a quick inspection just to be sure everything is safe.
Spec Electric pylon, Sat 10/8/05 Testing Notes:
We had a successful morning of testing at the SRAC field today. Here are some
notes on what we learned / confirmed.
- Electric will race in their own class - so comparative testing with the 1/2A's was / is a dead issue, but still a good reference to check over all performance.
- Non-SRAC members will be asked to pay $5.00 per race day, or $20.00 for the season. Dave Beardsley will collect the $$ and keep track of payment - then forward that to the SRAC club.
- There will be trophies available for electric class - Dave Beardsley will provide these - or work with SRAC to decide a solution for this year
- Bike Helmets are required on race days
- Please be at the field by no later then 11:30 for sign up
- Electric will race back - to - back, with little time in between heats. Have your stuff charged and ready on race day.
- Spec Brushless Electric's (Voodoo specifically) has a very similar straight line speed to last years speed-400 setup.
- Spec Brushless Electric's (Voodoo specifically) has an almost identical straight line speed compared to Roy and Jerry's 1/2A GLH.=
- Spec Brushless Electric's (Voodoo specifically) Launches VERY easy do to the increased thrust compared to last year's setup.
- Spec Brushless Electric's (Voodoo specifically) Lands at a safe and sane "slow-ish" speed - slower than last year due to the lighter weight.
- Spec Brushless Electric's (Voodoo specifically) is significantly faster in the corner then the 1/2A glow models. We estimate the Voodoo's gain over 30 ft per turn due to their cleaner design, and increased thrust.
- The Cheetah, Sprint, and Stinger (specifically) are NOT recommended for a beginner pilots. These models make up the smaller end of the speed-400 sized pylon racers. Consequently, their higher wing loading requires more precise flying and much closer energy / speed management during landings and launches. SRAC safely is top priority, so the CD / safety officer will make judgment calls on weather or not you're qualified to pilot the model in a safe manner at the SRAC field. Proceed at your own risk - don't speed $$ on these models if you're not confident you can "pass" a flight test!
For those of you who wish to fly AMA 423 legal airframes in the spec class, (Scott - this is you), Please see Bob at Galaxy for your gear.
Note: (we may swap props after the first race and dial in the thrust / speed for best performance. I Have the props, don't buy extra's yet.
You system will included (* indicates limitation of the rules)
- MAX 3000KV motor*
- 3s 2100 battery*
- 35 amp brushless controller
- APC 5x4.7 prop*
- Prop adapter / spinner
- Connectors
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